for doctoral students and supervising professors 12th May, 2017, at , at Harald Herlin learning center

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1 Get together for doctoral students and supervising professors 12th May, 2017, at , at Harald Herlin learning center 11:30 12:15 Lunch at the lobby, 1st floor 12:15 12:30 Opening of the get-together by the Dean Gary Marquis 12:30 12:40 Introduction of the ENG Doctoral Programme Committee :00 My doctoral studies and working life after graduation, DSc(Tech) Hannu Sairanen 13:00 13:20 Key elements of successful doctoral thesis project and the dreams for future, DSc(Tech) Jaakko Siltaloppi 13:20 13:30 Break 13:30 13:50 HR Services for graduating doctors, HRD Specialist Riikka Rissanen 13:50 14:10 Participating Global Young Scientists Summit , DSc(Tech) Suvi Papula 14:10 14:25 Aallon huiput presentation by Blyth Pascale-L. 14: Graduated doctors feedback 2016, discussion Head of Doctoral Programme of Engineering Harri Koivusalo

2 Doctoral Programme Committee Harri Koivusalo (BE) Professor, Water Resources Engineering Risto Lahdelma (ME) Professor, Energy Systems for Communities, mathematical modelling and optimization Seppo Junnila (BE) Professor, Real Estate Business Marketta kyttä (BE) Professor, Land Use Planning Jussi Leveinen (CIVE) Professor, geological engineering See also endoctoraleng/homepage 2

3 Doctoral Programme Committee Harri Koivusalo (BE) Risto Lahdelma (ME) Seppo Junnila (BE) Marketta kyttä (BE) Jussi Leveinen (CIVE) Vice members Raine Mäntysalo (BE) Jouni Partanen (ME) Jari Puttonen (CIVE) Pedro Vilaca (ME) 3

4 Doctoral programme See also eng/contact+information Programme services Planning officer Ritva Viero room M141a, Otakaari 1 tel Coordinator, Study Affairs Reetta Mannola room M141a, Otakaari 1 tel

5 Doctoral studies - process See also Processes+of+Learning+Services Course work & research Year 0 Y e a r 4 Tasks of the Doctoral Programme Committee - Prepare admission decision - Develop course contents - Approve thesis subjects - Confirm study plans - Appoint preliminary examiners - Grant permission to print theses - Grade doctoral theses 5

6 Yhd-12.Z - A!ENG Research Lab view.php?id=15591&lang=en 6

7 ENG Doctoral Programme homepage endoctoraleng/homepage Studies: Structure of doctoral degrees, 40 cr Dissertation: general requirements and examination process Forms: 7

8 Feedback survey of doctoral graduates

9 Feedback from 28 graduates 1. Mode of doctoral studies was mainly: Jatko-opintojen pääasiallinen muoto: 2. Gender / Sukupuoli 9

10 Home base 3. Where did you do the research for your doctoral dissertation? Missä teit väitöskirjatutkimustasi? 4. Department of your supervising professor / Laitos(vastuuprofessorisi) 10

11 Funding 5. Funding of doctoral studies: Jatko-opintojen rahoitus: 11

12 Study time 6. Active time spent on doctoral studies in years: Tohtoriopintoihin aktiivisesti käytetty aika vuosissa: years / vuotta 5 5, , , , , ,5 Yhteenveto: Alle 4 vuotta 4 vastaajaa 4-5 vuotta 15 vastaajaa Yli 5 vuotta 9 vastaajaa 12

13 Why delays 7. If your study time (active) was longer than 4 years, why did your studies exceed 4 years? Jos opiskeluaikasi (aktiivinen) oli pidempi kuin neljä vuotta, miksi opintosi venyivät? Vastaajien määrä: 22 Lack of 'scientific' instruction Duties not related to studies at same time We had no 4-year culture Insufficient guidance/ supervision 13

14 8. Please give your evaluation on following matters concerning doctoral studies: Anna arvioisi seuraavista jatko-opintoihin liittyvistä asioista: Yhteensä Keskiarvo The aims of my dissertation were clear / Väitöskirjani tavoitteet olivat selkeät ,25 Funding my doctoral studies including research work was secured at the beginning of my studies / Tohtoriopintojeni, myös ,32 tutkimustyöosuuden, rahoitus oli varmistettu opintojeni alussa I received enough help and guidance for applying personal grants/funding / Sain riittävästi ohjausta ja apua henkilökohtaisten ,18 apurahojen hakemiseen I received enough guidance for my research work / Sain riittävästi ohjausta tutkimustyöhön ,29 I received enough guidance for writing the dissertation / Sain riittävästi ohjausta ,46 väitöskirjan kirjoittamiseen I received enough guidance for career planning during my studies / Sain riittävästi ,79 ohjausta urasuunnitteluun opintojeni aikana Doctoral studies have given good qualifications for working life / Jatko-opinnot ovat antaneet hyvät valmiudet työelämää varten ,75 Other reasons/comments, please specify and/if you did disagree with some matters, why? / Muut syyt/kommentit, tarkenna ja/tai jos olit jossain kohdassa eri mieltä, miksi? ,54 14 Yhteensä ,07

15 Examples of written comments about aims-funding-guidance - Difficulties with funding, supervision focuses more on articles, less on dissertation itself - Organisational changes - The scope & aim of the dissertation 'became' clear, weren't at the beginning; (2) I was able to find support and guidance for my work but not from within the school - Information about courses has improved. - Introductory course is needed. - If the goal was to finish in four years I did not get enough guidance and my aims were not clear enough. However, I managed to do it in five years which means that aims and guidance was on at least an ok level. - Guidance was seriously lacking - Career planning was deficient 15

16 9. How well was the following realized during your doctoral studies? Miten hyvin seuraavat osa-alueet toteutuivat jatko-opinnoissasi? Yhteensä Keskiarvo Becoming well-versed in my field of research / Omaan tutkimusalaan syvällisesti perehtyminen ,14 Becoming well-versed in social significance of my field of research / Syvällisesti oman tutkimusalan yhteiskunnalliseen merkitykseen ,71 perehtyminen Gaining knowledge and skills needed to apply scientific research methods independently and critically / Itsenäisten ja kriittisten valmiuksen hankkiminen tieteellisen tutkimuksen menetelmien ,36 soveltamiseksi Gaining knowledge and skills needed to produce new scientific knowledge / Valmiuksien hankkiminen uuden tieteellisen tiedon ,18 luomiseen Becoming conversant with the development, basic problems and research methods of my field of research / Oman tutkimusalan kehitykseen, perusongelmiin ja tutkimusmenetelmiin syvällisesti perehtyminen Gaining such knowledge of the general theory of science and of other disciplines relating to the field of research that enables to follow their development / Yleisen tieteenteorian ja tutkimusalaan ,39 liittyvien muiden tieteenalojen tuntemuksen saavuttaminen niin, että niiden kehityksen seuraaminen mahdollistuu Gaining adequate knowledge of communication and language skills and other abilities in order to function in the working life in the extensive and demanding expert and development tasks as well as in international cooperation / Riittävien viestintä- ja kielitaitojen sekä ,82 muiden valmiuksen saavuttaminen työelämän laajoissa ja vaativissa asiantuntija- ja kehitystehtävissä sekä kansainvälisessä yhteistyössä toimimisen mahdollistamiseksi 16 Yhteensä ,94

17 Information sources 10. From where did you get information about the matters regarding your studies? Mistä sait tietoa opintoihisi liittyvistä asioista? Other academics outside the school 17

18 Feedback to study services 11. Did you get enough information and help with Excellent - questions or problems from Poor - Huonosti Erinomaise the Doctoral Programme sti Study Services? - Pre-examination process is byrocratic. More collaboration between student and committee Yhteensä Keskiarvo - Program web-pages are not clear. Information about courses is not sufficient. Introductory course is needed. - Doct studies were a great experience. I got very thoughtful and efficient help from both the committee and student services. 28 3,68 - Process of graduation is complex. Information is not easily available but help from study services is well available. - The main difficulty was to have a clear action list for the doctoral dissertation demands and forms. - Instruction style was: "tuossa on kylmä vesi, yritä uida". - Why Aalto ENG does not allow an dissertation based on essays? - The courses I attended were well-arranged for the most part. I also had a post and a computer available at the laboratory, as well as decent experimental and computational facilities. - However, I had to plan and carry out my research too independently, which made the process unnecessarely hard. In my view, this happened due to lack of competence, time and/or motivation on part of the people responsible for guidance and supervision. I managed by overworking. - The problems I encountered in the research part of my studies were probably for a part due to the current 4-year doctoral programme not being fully instatiated in practice. - Changing requirements were hampering studies. - I would like to have more clear description about publication forums and number of publications suited for compendium type dissertatioin. 18

19 After graduation 13. Your employment situation after obtaining doctoral degree: Työllisyystilanteesi tohtoriksi valmistumisen jälkeen: 14. Does your current job relate to your education? Vastaako nykyinen työsi koulutustasi? 19

20 17. Where are you working (after obtaining doctoral degree)? Missä työskentelet (tohtoriksi valmistumisen jälkeen)? 18. In which field does your work (after obtaining doctoral degree) categorize? Mihin tehtäväkenttään työsi (tohtoriksi valmistumisen jälkeen) kuuluu? 20

21 Some remarks Students gain good and useful professional and academic skills Typical graduation time in terms of active study time is not far from 4 yrs Funding situations vary Still variability in the level of supervision/instruction Career plans are not well considered Labor market looks positive 21