Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) Pair A vs Pair B Pair A Pair B Pair B Pair A alomaa uppula Mˆ kelˆ Koistinen Viitasalo lsinen Tuomi yberg Board Contract By M D - - Contract By M D - - IMPs 4 40 4 40 - - 4 10 1-400 0-9 1 1 90 - x 00 4 4 0-1 IMPs Pair A Pair B This segment 1 Penalty 0 0 Carryover 0 0 total 1-1 - References: BridgeBase online. dited by M.ugino
Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) Board : Pair A - 0 : Pair B - 0 o 4 40 c 4 40 40 4 A J 9 Q J 9 K Q A Q4 AK J9 4 4 K 11- K Q J 9 A : alomaa : lsinen Open : uppula : Viitasalo 1 p p 4 p p p #1 :: K,,T,A # ::,,K, # ::,4,Q, #4 :: K,,4, # ::,, A,T # :: 9,A,Q, kaapo: Jatkohan tuli todella vauhdikkaasti..1..p..p....p runnerup: tˆ ssˆ aika standardi 4 sp+1..4..p kaapo: Juu, Mikan ei neljˆ nnestˆ kˆ destˆ ole heikko..p..p kaapo: Ilmeisesti lupaa kunnon avauskˆ den ja k :n.. K runnerup: perinteisesti 1-1 k kaapo: alomaa - Viitasalo pelaavat Bart impsonia ja avaavat ekassa ja tokassa kˆ dessˆ kaikki vˆ hint ˆ ˆ n 9 ap sisˆ ltˆ vˆ t kˆ det.... T.. A...... K.. kaapo: Tiinalla ja Tarulla taitaa olla luonnollinen systeemi 4k ylˆ vˆ rein.... 4.. Q.. p Board : Pair B - 0 : Pair A - 0 o 4 40 c 4 40 40 4 A J 9 Q J 9 K Q A Q4 AK J9 4 4 K 11- K Q J 9 A : Mˆ kelˆ : yberg Closed : Koistinen : Tuomi p p 4 p p p #1 :: K,4,,A # ::,,A, # :: K,4,, #4 ::,T,Q, # :: K,,4,A # ::,,, alddk4: Good evening everyone and welcome back to alsomaggiore.. K.... 4........ A.. T.. 9.. A.. Q.. peachy: elcome everybody oleberg: I migth not bid it immidiately, but I would never settle for less rnmalik: Hello all and welcome. tomi: nice to see players from all over urope participating in this event, didn t know this.. alddk4: This is round of 9 in the Italian Mixed Teams Championships..p alddk4: Our operator is Daniela alddk4: Your commentators Raija Davis and Peter Lund pelu: hi all peachy: Hello Roland, Peter, and Daniela..p.. pelu: HCP and suits with tricks - only o..p..4..p..p..p zebutin: idˆ ltˆ erikoinen valinta kahdentaa 4, omasta fitistˆ ei ole tietoa, eikˆ nˆ ytˆ p - -
Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) mitenkˆ ˆ n todennˆ kˆ iseltˆ ettˆ peli menisi pietiin tomi: is this Cecilia or andra playing in the OR?.. K jni: pˆ ƒndende pas fra her - ville alle melde dˆ 't? pelu: problem is to stay out of T.. 4 zebutin: jaossa taas slammi kohtuullisen hyvˆ sitoumus on, ja siihen pitˆ isikin pˆ ˆ stˆ alddk: Cecilia.. zebutin: pass nˆ yttˆ ˆ luonnollisemmalta.. A rnmalik: Very thin opening by and to a unmakeable contract... alddk4: elcome back everyone alddk4: and good morning to David Carlisle pelu: close to make - also play for.. kaapo: Ilmeisesti tˆ mˆ jako on pelattu jo ajat sitten oikeasti, ja Pinha on taas kynˆ n ja paperin kanssa tallentanut jaon :) oleberg: Pˆƒnt goddag.. A kaapo: *Pinja.. peachy: outh made a disciplined pass, she already bid her whole hand with.. K rnmalik: Good Morning David... 4.... garnetts: good morning all.. zebutin: Koistinen-yberg pelaavat magic diamond vahvaruutu systeemiˆ alddk4: Good afternoon to Rashed abi Malik.. T.. Q.. tomi: Bocchi and Auken played together in last year s uropeam Championships in an Remo, I was allowed to play my first boards in that event against them. They did not have too many... K tomi: agreements and not even a convention card, maybe that has changed since then zebutin: Tuomi-Mˆ kelˆ edelleen luonnollista k ylˆ vˆ reillˆ pelu: but 4-1 will be hard to overcom - and there are also a -ruff.. rnmalik: Thanks... 4.. A zebutin: hyvin tarjottu tˆ mˆ kin jako rkkilˆ - Ahoselta.. Board : Pair A : Pair B - 0 o 4 10 c 1 0 A Q9 4 9 9 K K Q 4 K J4 9 4 A J Q AQ J K A J 11-11 11- : alomaa : lsinen Open : uppula : Viitasalo 1 p 1 X p p p p #1 ::,,T,A # ::,,K,A # ::,9,, #4 :: Q,,, J # :: T,K,A, # :: Q,4,, # :: J,9,, # ::, 4,, kaapo: kan kierroksen tulokset ovat nyt tuolla http://www.bridgefinland.fi/trials/0/ kaapo: Jos saisi tarjota rauhassa, he ehkˆ pˆ ˆ tyisivˆ t 4 :aan..1!..4+! 9-14..p..1.. runnerup: ew -4 H jˆ rjestynee,mutta onko keinoja..p....p..p..p kaapo: Jossa taitaa olla kotipelisaumoja kaapo: Aika hankala sitˆ on lˆ ytˆ ˆ tˆ llaisessa sarjassa.. kaapo: Tosin toisessa pˆ ydˆ ssˆ kin Koistinen avasi 1T 4. kˆ dessˆ ja sarja jˆ i siihen runnerup: ns oli kyllˆ kiipelissˆ jos kahdentaavat vaan kaiken kaapo: Jos lsinen - uppula pelaa 14-1 sangia, niin silloin voisi 4 lˆ ytyˆ kin.... T.. A.. runnerup: ei toi 4 herttaa niin hyvˆ oo,mutta istunto on.... K.. A.... 9...... Q...... J.. T.. K.. A.. - -
Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) Board : Pair B - 0 : Pair A o 4 10 c 1 0 A Q9 4 9 9 K K Q 4 K J4 9 4 A J Q AQ J K A J 11-11 11- : Mˆ kelˆ : yberg Closed : Koistinen : Tuomi p p p 1 p p p #1 ::,,K,A # :: K,A,, # :: K,A,, #4 ::,,Q,4 # ::,,T, # :: Q,,, J # :: 9,Q,A, # :: J,9,, #9 ::, J, T, 9 # :: 9, 4,, #11 :: 4,,J, #1 ::,,Q,4 #1 ::,T, T,K rnmalik: at this vul position, costly contract... Q.. 4...... J.. 9........ 4.... alddk4: - wife/husband alddk4: Dorthe and Peter tomi: they used to play natural against me then but they can have worked on a system, one spec believes they play some kind of strong club..p..p..p pelu: Aakirkeby is from the smalest distrikt. Bornholm - and Ravenkilde from Vejle in Jutland..1 tomi: Bocchi has no a natural and a strong 1 opener :)..p alddk: Fine grand slam in spades; you just need to cash the right honour first peachy: If sacrifice in a minor, they might be sweetly surprised to make, just takes correct club guess pelu: on the right viuw in - and only a - ruff can defeat 4 alddk: That s a guess..p..p alddk: But a clue will be that you won t get a trump lead alddk: so you have to figure out why tomi: either leader has spades with the queen or no spade at all? :)= alddk: yep alddk: so a pure guess as I said zebutin: Magic diamondissa tarjoukset&tarjouksien vahvuus vaihtelee 1& ja &4 kˆ sien mukaan peachy: of course, sacrifice in these colors is seldom a good idea...... K zebutin: hyvˆ llˆ arvaamisella tikkejˆ voi tulla todella paljon.. A garnetts: Is 1 enough? 1 likely to be forcing.. K zebutin: ja vˆ hˆ n huonommallakin reilusti yli 9 pelu: sorry Ravnkilde from north Jutland.. A momad: ru kan vinde garnetts: Certainly 1 shows plus values unless playing equal conversion garnetts: However this should make rnmalik: imo shows values of more then an opening hand + length of suit... momad: Det ligner en 1 er til Rˆ dovre.. athene: hi good afternoon everyone.. K.. A alddk: T is perhaps better, sometimes you can make it even if you misguess spades garnetts: a heart lead would have scared ast-- would he dare play a club to the K pelu: would u all bid only 1 time in? many would bid 4T over 4 = + and 4 card.. peachy: I would not jump vugraphztg: have showed 14-1T, have showed GF with in major alddk: I think they will get to.. pelu: outside Hobro vugraphztg: http://www.bridge.dk/0009/klub/ Turneringer/Resultat91.html for results from round vugraphztg:... and http://www.bridge.dk/0009/ Klub/Turneringer/KampResultat91.html for standings vugraphztg: This is no and. Only VP between the two teams.. zebutin: Tervetuloa seuraamaan suomen PMkisoihin karsintaa, avoimessa ja naisten luokassa. Tˆ ssˆ huoneessa kommentointia suomeksi ja - 4 -
Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) avoimessa englanniksi (kai) alddk: or not.. athene: asks for the Q, and says she has it but no other king? alddk: It s a grand slam we all want to be in athene: i guess she thinks 4 already showed her K so she doesn t want to bid there garnetts: ell you need a foricing bid after a takeout double and it is practical to play jumps as one round forces reserving the cue bid to strong support.. Q momad: ell bid by Jensen. He is fast and not afraid of anything.. 4 zebutin: Mahdollisesti suomeksi molemmissa/ miten vain alddk: If asks for trump queen which I think it does, what would be then?...... T garnetts: But there may well be other methods but agreement is as ever required.... Q rnmalik: agree. garnetts: looks like a claim coming rnmalik: minimum 9 on the table. tomi: this board can cause a swing that you cant repair in lots of other boards by playing well. and this is just "luck" if oth other table plays and wins / fails... alddk: Maybe abine tried to show a th spade with no queen by jumping to?.. zebutin: Koistinen heittˆ nee pari pois kˆ destˆ ˆ n.. J athene: well most play that would deny the queen and anything else shows it.. 9 pelu: - 0r 4 is not the problem - would u bid over 4??.. Q.. A peachy: Then again, if I did jump, which is reasonable, partner then knows to ecxpect a marvelous hand when vul against not-vul pelu: but next time pd will have A and not A : (:(.. vugraphztg: OJ needs to win with IMP to go ahead of BK ord zebutin: nyt mahdollinen kiristys mustissa vˆ reissˆ, joka ei tieten aktuellilla jaolla toimi, kuin vˆ ˆ rillˆ sakauksilla.. J.. 9........ J.. T.. 9.. 9.. 4...... 4 Board : Pair A : Pair B - 0 o 400 c - 0 140 K J A J A J 9 A9 9 K 9 Q AQ Q4 K Q -9-9 - 4 K J 4 4 : alomaa : lsinen Open : uppula : Viitasalo 1 p p p X p p p p #1 ::,,, # :: Q,K,A,4 # ::,,, #4 ::,J,9, # :: T,,,Q # :: 4,,K, # :: T, 4,, # ::,,Q,A #9 :: J,,T, kaapo: Tˆ ssˆ saatetaan pˆ ˆ tyˆ :aan.... J........ Q.. 4.... T.. T.. K runnerup: jos ei jˆ ˆ 1 ristiin..1 kaapo: Varmaan heikko hyppy kaapo: Jostain syystˆ yberg pelaa tˆ ssˆ jaossa :aa toisessa pˆ ydˆ ssˆ..p..!..p..p runnerup: ok-sitten vielˆ arvaukset ja kotipeli kaapo: Lˆ nnen korteilla siis kaapo: Kappas, Mikki lˆ ysi vielˆ kahdennnuksen. Onhan hˆ nellˆ tarjoamattomia vˆ rejˆ....p kaapo: Ja vastustajalla voisi toki olla hieman huonommat kortit.. runnerup: ruutu q pietaa..p..p..p kippari: hieman vaarallisen nˆ kˆ inen D kolmella hakulla runnerup: jaa no tˆ ˆ olikin se arvattava tilanne balassi johti hiukan ylimitoitettuun kontrahtiin........ kippari: kuten suljetussa huomattiin,c ja K 1 4 4 4 - -
Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) avausta pitˆ ˆ aina hˆ iritˆ.. Q.. K.. A.. 4............ J.. 9.... T...... Q Board : Pair B - 0 : Pair A o 400 c - 0 140 K J A J A J 9 A9 9 K 9 Q AQ Q4 K Q -9-9 - 4 K J 4 4 : Mˆ kelˆ : yberg Closed : Koistinen : Tuomi 1 p 1 p p p p p p 4 4 4 #1 ::,4,Q,A # :: T,,,Q # ::,J,A,4 #4 :: T,,, # ::,,Q,A # :: K,, 4, Q # ::,9,, # :: K,,4, #9 :: 9,K,A, # :: K,,, zebutin: Ahonen&rkkilˆ taitavat pelata kirppuristiˆ, Mˆ kelˆ &Tuomi luonnollisempaa kortin ylˆ vˆ reillˆ.. 4.... K.... T.. 4.......... Q.. A.. J.... T.. zebutin: Hyvin vedetty kuitenkin lisˆ tikkien mahdollisuudet silmissˆ kiiluen momad: ot many imps at stake here..1! zebutin: 1 1-1nt tai 1-1 epˆ tasainen, ei kerro vˆ reistˆ zebutin: 1 avaus lupasi 1+ pistettˆ..p vugraphztg: looks fine..1!.. zebutin: jaossa suhteellisen helppo slammi on tarjottavissa, joten katsotaan miten vahvaristi tˆ stˆ selviytyy pelu: pass from Franco?..p zebutin: 1 joko 0-pistettˆ tai tˆ yspelivaatimus, ei kerro sekˆ ˆ n vˆ reistˆ - -
Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) alddk: Can they control this auction now I wonder..p alddk: A 9 count opening peachy: outh s duty is to bid H, pelu: pass and = one-man-show :) alddk: Can be difficult to stop abine....p peachy: there is no Forcing Pass in this sort of auction when the 4H was not bid constructively. zebutin: Vaarassa- vaaratonta vastaan melkorohkeaa estˆ mistˆ zebutin: monien mielestˆ 1 avaus on magic diamond systeemin heikoin lenkki, vastuksien tarjotessa vˆ liin, vˆ rejˆ ˆ n voi olla todella hankala kertoa, joten hyvˆ t fitit voi olla lˆ ytymˆ ttˆ.. rnmalik: can make 4 but may find difficult to bid...p zebutin: toisessa pˆ ydˆ ssˆ ilmeisesti on tarjoussarja epˆ onnistunut ihan tˆ ysin, ja on pelattu slammin sijasta nt sitoumusta, joka oikealla lˆ hdˆ llˆ pariin pietiin menisi zebutin: x taitaa kieltˆ ˆ lˆ hdˆ n padassa/ kieltˆ ˆ ison kuvan padassa..p..p pelu: -lead to defeat - and that sh be a notmal lead from ast - u cant exp a -trick here.. garnetts: very friendly cards for declarer here zebutin: ilmeisesti nytkin Koistinen olettaa k pataa, eikˆ 4kortin + k alavˆ riˆ peachy: In fact, the current trend (according to some articles from experts lately) is to have Forciong Pass "On" only *hen the caddy knows it is forcing*.. 4 zebutin: jos 4 oli cue, rdbl kertoisi ensimmˆ isen asteen kontrollista, joko ˆ ssˆ tai renonssi alddk: Club!A will beat it right away of course.. Q.. A tomi: i would also play my partner for having a king or an ace outside the spades for th opening alddk: o chance as I see it garnetts: ot that good a contract 4 and on a bad day fails.. T athene: he will ruff a diamond perhaps.... athene: play for Qxx alddk: that would just be one hurdle alddk: Then he would also have to guess J pelu: I dont like the bid - why not - ast will normal have a card - and after support he will go after T oleberg: On a heart lead, which was found in CR, there are not 9 wall-to-wall tricks zebutin: ahkerasta ehkˆ isemisestˆ huolimatta, hyvˆ ˆ n sitoumukseen laskeutuminen. Hyvin tarjottu.. Q rnmalik: That is true..... J.. A vugraphztg: :).. 4.. T athene: ok, lots down now.. rnmalik: But friendly placement of cards:)........ zebutin: pelinvienti tuskin kauhean kauan vie pelu: how many s u exp by pd after vuln? - -9 - so never K lead.. Q.. A.. K.... 4 vugraphztg: http://www.bridge.dk/0009/klub/ Turneringer/Resultat90.html for results from round 9.. Q.... 9...... K vugraphztg: http://www.bridge.dk/0009/klub/ Turneringer/KampResultat90.html.... 4.... 9 vugraphztg:... for standings oleberg: Declarer could have gone wrong, played for a spade trick and misguessed.. K.. A - -
Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) Board 9 : Pair A 1 : Pair B - 0 o c 1 1 90 9 10 K 9 K Q9 J K J 4 K 4 A 9 AQ A A Q 4 J Q9 J 4 : alomaa : lsinen Open : uppula : Viitasalo p! p 1 p p p p p kaapo: Ruokatauko kˆ sittˆ ˆ kseni on 0 jaon jˆ lkeen kippari: ok #1 :: J,K,, # :: J,,Q,K # :: K,,J,A #4 :: A,, 4, 4 # :: T,,, # ::,,9,J # :: T,,, 4 # ::,9,T, #9 :: A,,,Q # ::,K,, kippari: hyvin vedetty.... K.. kaapo: Tiinan olisi parempi pelata J runnerup: no jos tarjooa kovaa pitˆ ˆ saada apuja, joita ihan aina vastustajat ei anna kippari: joo mutta helposti vain J jˆ ˆ pelaamatta kaapo: Mikalla ja Pekalla on heikkoon sangiin - way tayman...p!..0-..p..1!..1-1..p kaapo: mutta vahvaan siirrot kaapo: hkˆ Mika voi tarjota ja sitten, jos haluaa etsiˆ - :aa runnerup: edellisestˆ innostuneena mikki hakee alipistein taas tˆ yspeliˆ..!..p....p kippari: minkˆ lainen aikataulu tˆ nˆ ˆ n Kaapo..p..p.. J kaapo: Mukana on paria, puolet naisissa, puolet avoimessa. He pelaavat x kaikkia vastaan, jakoa kierroksella.. K...... J.... Q.. K - -
Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) Board 9 : Pair B - 0 : Pair A 1 o c 1 1 90 9 10 K 9 K Q9 J K J 4 K 4 A 9 AQ A A Q 4 J Q9 J 4 : Mˆ kelˆ : yberg Closed : Koistinen : Tuomi p p 1 p p p #1 ::,J,,T # :: 4,,T,J # :: K,,J, #4 :: Q,4,, # ::,,T,A # :: A,,,9 # ::,, K,Q # ::,,, #9 ::, 4,Q,9 # ::,,Q,K #11 :: 9,,, #1 ::,A,4,T #1 :: 9,J, A,K alddk: Two decisions that could prove costly.. K.... J.. A.. A.... 4.. 4.. T............ 9.. J.. T...... 4.... 9.. T.... A...... Q.... K tomi: aren t we connected to the other room? alddk: e shall see soon when the hands are played in the other room zebutin: puolustus tikin tai pari nukahti alddk: we are, but they started mins after us..p peachy: it also sounded like was not afraid of diamonds momad: I guess the close room result is likely to be copied..p..1 zebutin: jˆ lleen 1+ pistettˆ vahvaristi auki zebutin: myˆ s yberg olisi voinut pelata paremmin, heitˆ ˆ mˆ llˆ J:n K:n alle, saaden yhteyden pelata ristiˆ kohti J9:ˆ ˆ..p rnmalik: another partial...p zebutin: sitoumuksessa tuskin kauheasti eroa syntyy, jos rkkilˆ -Ahonen kilpailevat asti, voi donkillla Tuomi-Mˆ kelˆ saada muutaman pisteen athene: i assume showed values so south should be moving here..p.. alddk: Anyone prefer T rather than double? athene: nt gets your hand across so you aren t going to miss a game if it s there, but double might be a bit safer i suppose.. J alddk: They are still on board 1 in the other room.... T.. 4.. alddk: o the slam decisions on and must wait a little tomi: doubleton queen of clubs onside, this deal will not be misguessed :) pelu: in Open Rivera bid - and let opp play 4 garnetts: much prefer T to the initial double or the raise pelu: K and duck a (in 1t) in T u need s -.. T.. J.. K momad: I was wrong athene: i guess you take the club finesse and then if east turns up with Qxxx so you can t run them, you just need to bring in spade tricks.. momad: THis might be a winner.. J oleberg: It will take accurate defence to beat it athene: so you finesse against the nine.... Q momad: shows 4 spades with H momad: A big position by oleberg: est has to discourage hearts, but cannot spare the 9 garnetts: west obviously expects something different to what he has just seen in dummy.. 4 zebutin: Tuomelta hyvin pelattu ruutu maski, QJ duppeli on suhteellisen epˆ todennˆ kˆ inen kombinaatio, joten parempi pelata niin, ettei Koistinen pˆ ˆ se kiinni lyˆ mˆ ˆ n pataa lˆ pi.. oleberg: The way to defeat it would have been to switch, wait for west to get in with the A, and then lead the J to scoop dummys........ T.. A.. A oleberg: But that wouldn t work, if west had discouraged with the 9, as declarers would then be high...... 9.. pelu: a better game - if s 4- make with J in (max ).. oleberg: But perhaps he should have done it anyway, playing partner for the - 9 -
Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) momad: Martin chaltz says you should play standard attitude (lav = AFVIIG) when there are two or three small in dummy... K.. Q.. oleberg: ounds interesting athene: he can t be all that helpful that the defence will let him build a spade trick, but it doesn t hurt to try.... athene: i assume he actually cashed the last club there.... athene: ah she sorry oleberg: Both vs suit and T?.. 4.. Q momad: yes.. 9.. momad: If partner pulls the ace from ace-king, it coud be expensive dropping J from J.. pelu: when u bid an make T on this values I will recomand that u go out a make a lottokupon.. Q.. K.. 9 peachy: Being MP scoring, I completely agree with.... zebutin: maski olisi ollut ihan varteenotettava vaihtoehto, jos rkkilˆ saa halvan tikin, on vastuksilla enˆ ˆ n pata A ylhˆ ˆ llˆ, joten peli on varmasti kotona kuitenkin.... Board : Pair A - 1 : Pair B o x - 00 c 4 4 0 0 AQ9 A J 9 4 A K K Q J J 4 4 K Q - 1 K Q J 9 4 A 9 11-49 : alomaa : lsinen Open : uppula : Viitasalo 4 p p p p X p p p #1 ::,K,A, # ::,T, 9, # :: K,,,A #4 :: K,A,4, # :: Q,, 4, T # :: T,,A, kaapo: Tuolla on nyt tarkempi aikataulu: http:// www.bridgefinland.fi/trials/0/.. A.. 4.. T.. 9.. J.. A.. K kaapo: n ihan 0-varma ole, meneekˆ tˆ mˆ noin, mutta senhˆ n nˆ kee sitten :)..4 kaapo: Aina jaon jˆ lkeen vaihtuvat siis pelaajat. Raamalˆ hetyskin katkaistaan aina tuolloin, jotta arkistoihin saadaan oikeat pelaajanimet..p..p....p vugraphzvd: juu, kati varmisti ettˆ 0 jaon jˆ lkeen ruokatauko runnerup: tˆ ssˆ 00 -jos osaavat kupin ottaa..p....p..p..p kaapo: Anni valitsi toisessa pˆ ydˆ ssˆ passin 4 : aan. Taitaisin itse valita tuon. Kuitenkin helposti voi olla oma jako kyseessˆ.. kaapo: Jos estˆ jˆ lˆ htee muuta kuin estovˆ riˆ, se lˆ hes aina on singeli.. K.. A.. kaapo: Kohta jatkuu.... T.. 9.... K...... A.. K.. A.. 4.... Q.... 4.. - -
Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) T.. T.... A.. runnerup: padassakin 11 tikkiˆ -ilman valttilˆ htˆ ˆ -joten menetys 4 imppiˆ /pˆ ytˆ -niihin verraten Board : Pair B : Pair A - 1 o x - 00 c 4 4 0 0 AQ9 A J 9 4 A K K Q J J 4 4 K Q - 1 K Q J 9 4 A 9 11-49 : Mˆ kelˆ : yberg Closed : Koistinen : Tuomi 4 p p p #1 ::,A,, # ::,T,A,4 # :: 9,,, #4 ::,K,T,4 # :: K,,, # :: K,, 4, A # :: Q, 4,, # :: K,A,, #9 :: 9,,, peachy: xcuse m, it is IMPs!!!!! pelu: rimelig klubspiller - men heller ikke mere oleberg: But also from J oleberg: But less likely zebutin: Ahonen ei kuitenkaan laskenut pelinviej ˆ n valtteja, joten lopussa puolustus tikin verran kompuroi athene: abine has said in print that she likes bidding over 1 and over 1 as it can be very hard for opps to sort out major-suit fits and stoppers for notrumps..4..p..p..p athene: i guess the same applies for over 1 oleberg: How about J zebutin: normaalin oloinen sitoumus, ja lˆ hdˆ stˆ riippuen joko tai 11 tikkiˆ zebutin: osasitoumus taistelua, patavˆ ri taitaa t ˆ ssˆ kin pˆ ydˆ ssˆ voiton viedˆ.. momad: Good result for ord in closed room.. A kaapo: Huomenta epollekin :) - 11 -
Finnish Team Trials(Round of 14) zebutin: korjaan arvaustani, tuntuu melko rivakalta.... zebutin: huomenta vaan kaapo: Maksimit systeemissˆ athene: it s sensible to be able to bid clubs naturally over a short club, i think - you just use as michaels or whatever.... T oleberg: Jeg mente du.. A.. 4.. 9 tomi: non forcing free bids would have allowed south to bid here and let her partner decide to bid on level.. athene: i suppose there has to be a good hand for negative free bids every so often momad: diamonds cashing and 1 spade loser zebutin: vˆ ri on kyllˆ hyvˆ, mutta muuten kortit ovat kyllˆ melko aneemiset, jˆ tkˆ ˆ ei varsinaisesti arvoa lisˆ ˆ kˆ teen tuo.... pelu: can 4 make? - t makes easy.. pelu: I exp Franco to make 4 :) garnetts: I admit I would not have looked beyond the J for a lead athene: if you wanted to get cute here you would play transfers ( = hearts, = spades, = diamonds).. K rnmalik: play of vital importance. athene: then you have the advantage of forcing AD non-forcing bids by responder.. T tomi: this is right.. 4.. K.... athene: but that s something for regular partnerships only i would say.. peachy: this lead helps him, but nothing wrong with lead.. K.. garnetts: cash and throw in now.. 4 alddk: in on board.. A.. Q.. 4 tomi: and for declarers, who are good in plaing - fits in case one player has forgotten the transfer :) alddk: Cecilia Rimstedt pondering, how to play spades? alddk: and misguessed alddk: 1 IMPs to Lavazza momad: Looks like a winning plan athene: unlucky - it s a good grand.. garnetts: then the contract is assured garnetts: just lead a heart now and the pennies will come your way garnetts: otice an intial spade lead would not lead to this situation--passive leads can be taken too far.... K.. A.. rnmalik: exactly garnetts: orth should give a ruff and discard-- then I think ast is back to a guess zebutin: pieni kuppi hiukan laiskaa pelausta, koska olisi varaa ottaa myˆ s tai 9:llˆ, sitoumus on kuitenkin tˆ mˆ nkin pitˆ vˆ.... 9-1 -