Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Manni vs Kuokkanen Manni Kuokkanen Kuokkanen Manni Laine Porkka Halttunen irkiˆ Manni Kuokkanen oonen Aro Board Contract By M D - - Contract By M D - - IMPs 11 4 4 40 1-11 1 x 1 0 4 4 40 11-1 1 0 4 1 0 - - 14 4 4 40 4 4 40 - - 1 4 40 400-1 1 4 x 00 4 4-1 140 1 0-1 4 4 0 4 4 0 - - 1 10 x 00 4-0 1 4 4 1 0 - IMPs Manni Kuokkanen This segment Penalty 0 0 Carryover 1 total - 1 - References: BridgeBase online. dited by M.ugino
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 11 : Manni - 1 : Kuokkanen 11 4 o 4 4 40 c 1 11-00 Q K Q K Q 4 A J 4 A J K J 4 AK J 4 A Q : Laine : Kuokkanen Oen : Porkka : Manni 4 4 4 form west rv: orth didn t find ruff rv: ast can make this by guessing J rv: if we agree that ast should have more his bid at level o a assed artner, then est ossibly has a bid as well nigel_k: He knows orth has a to diamond ( since no lead) and A.. A.... Q.. roswolf: fair oint nigel_k: o orth unlikely to have A nigel_k: If he can find out about orth s third diamond the whole shae is known though.. 4.... Q........ A...... J.. nigel_k: Low heart best now.. 4 rv: ast should get this right now.. A roswolf: and did...... roswolf: a good swing for the leaders #1 :: 4,,A,Q # :: J,,,K # ::,,J, #4 :: T,4,, # :: A,,Q, # :: 4,,Q, # ::,,A, # ::,J,,4 # :: A,,, roswolf: some 4- fits lay better than others suokko: Right link: htt://www.bridgefinland.com /sm/joukkue0/index.h?lang=... rv: surely now roswolf: you would think so vugrahzmq: thinking rv: all ok with or any would consider double with east hand?...... roswolf: aggressive oosite a assed ard by east..4... 4 nigel_k: I refer but double is ok as well roswolf: yes i would double if you forced me to bid.. rv: actually I would ass with east hand oosite hand, second choice is double.. A.. Q roswolf: agree.. J...... K nigel_k: I wouldn t ass even counting Q as zero H...... J.... T.. 4.... roswolf: i do think the raise was also dubious - -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 11 : Kuokkanen 11 4 : Manni - 1 o 4 4 40 c 1 11-00 Q K Q K Q 4 A J 4 A J K J 4 AK J 4 A Q : Halttunen : Aro Closed : irkiˆ : oonen 4 4.. A maribelxx: mulle soiva elinvienti :) kaao: Kenties siinˆ tilanteessa Kuokkanen olisi voinut ˆ ssˆ kyselyyn kertoa kˆ yttˆ keloisen renonssin (ja arittoman mˆ ˆ rˆ n avainkortteja) tarjoamalla T.......... K kaao: yt renonssi oli artnerin vˆ rissˆ eikˆ ehkˆ niin hyˆ dyllinen.... 4.... K.... 4.. K.. A.. kaao: Kovasti rajoilla on, itˆ isikˆ irkiˆ n korteilla tarjota :n ˆ ˆ lle. Huononnˆ kˆ inen Q ehkˆ sai assaamaan #1 :: K,,, # :: A,4,, # :: T,A,, #4 ::,,T,Q # ::,,, # ::,A,, # ::,,K, # :: 4,,K, # :: 4,K,A, kaao: Huomenta maribelxx: o oikein hyvˆ ˆ huomenta vaan! kaao: Perinteinen joukkisfinaali alkamassa. Jonkunverran infoa lˆ ytyy tuolta: htt://bridgefinland.fi /sm/joukkue0/...... kaao: Moro Vesallekin. Pˆ ˆ set kritisoimaan Timoa ;).. K mue: moi maribelxx: Kovin montaa muuta aamuvirkkua suomalaista en katsomossa nˆ e, mutta ehkˆ ˆ ikku hiljaa vˆ ki kˆ mii koneidensa ˆ ˆ reen...... maribelxx: For those who wonder, we seak Finnish in this closed room. nglish commentary in the oen... A.. 4.... kaao: Kiva jako tuli heti alkuun.. T.. A...... kaao: Jos ohjoisella olisi -renonssi, menisi isoslammikin.... T.. Q.......... - -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Manni 11 : Kuokkanen - 4 o x -1 0 c 4 4 40 1 40 K K J Q A J 4 AQ 4 4 J J Q 4 - Q AK AK : Laine : Kuokkanen Oen : Porkka : Manni 4 4 X nigel_k: The bid may have traded +00 for - 0 rv: if est had assed, ast would have gleefully doubled roswolf: indeed bidding in front of ard is frowned uon in the best circles.. A...... rv: it is satirically called master bid (masterminding auction) and is not a comliment at all:).. T.. roswolf: :) nigel_k: ometimes you do have a hand that is imroved by the bidding, but here est was just too good for the initial and tried to catch u roswolf: fair comment nigel rv: actually a few exerts lay double by a reemtor shows more shae and has very limited defense, it is called shall we bid-on or save suggesting double.. Q roswolf: ah the ass- the -buck double.. A...... rv: there is no bid to show, I have extras and defense as well, hence est decided to bid urely guessing at the table:) roswolf: cost 11 ims #1 :: J,A,, # ::, T,,Q # :: A,,, nigel_k: Once orth followed with two small diamonds he must have one more and so no more hearts nigel_k: If orth layed Q the second time it is harder roswolf: 4 looks normal here but odd looking auction in the other room roswolf: easts neg double looks very out of left field nigel_k: Maybe negative free bids?.. rv: not my choice for at this colors in first osition....4 roswolf: imo a reemt on the west hand is a wared view nigel_k: Preemting has been very sound so far rv: est s hand is closer to 1 than though I would have assed:)..4.. nigel_k: The roblem is that you are temted to bid again..... roswolf: is over the to... rv: 4 would have been a massacre.. J roswolf: west guilty of inconsistency of aroach - 4 -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Kuokkanen - 4 : Manni 11 o x -1 0 c 4 4 40 1 40 K K J Q A J 4 AQ 4 4 J J Q 4 - Q AK AK : Halttunen : Aro Closed : irkiˆ : oonen 1 1 X 4 avaus 1 ylˆ vˆ riˆ luaa systeemin mukaan -1.. 4.... kaao: Kisan nettisivu on tuolla: htt://bridgefinland.fi /sm/joukkue0/ Lisˆ sin sinnekin :n systeemilaun kaao: inulla vai elaajilla vai sekˆ ettˆ?.. maribelxx: Terve eo! inullakin vˆ hˆ n nihke ˆ alku vai?.. Q.. zebutin: no, minˆ hˆ n olen aina irteˆ, joten varmaan vain elaajilla.. kaao: Toivottavasti Pinja ja Juho saivat kunnon yˆ unet. Pitkˆ ˆ ivˆ tiedossa heille :) zebutin: no, ehtiihˆ n sitˆ nukkua sitten ensiyˆ nˆ kaao: Myˆ s ekan uolen butlerit ovat siellˆ, Tulokset-sivulla.. T.. Q #1 :: A,,,K # :: 4,Q,T, # :: A,,, J #4 ::, 4,,4 # ::,,,Q # ::,,T,Q kaao: Kivasti jakoa taas kaao: hkˆ 4 -avaus nˆ issˆ vyˆ hykkeissˆ? kaao: taitaa elata 14-1 sangia?..1..1.....4 kaao: :n systeemilaukin lˆ ytyi: htt:// www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/conventioncards /00Pau-euroean/eniorTeams/Finland/arosirkja.df... A maribelxx: je.. kaao: Itse assaisin Aron korteilla, jos kerta arilla on max 1 istettˆ kaao: Kalervo on hieman otimistisemi :).. maribelxx: toivottavasti nosto ei erustunut jakoon :) (kyllˆ eliaikalla ihan valoisaa itˆ isi olla) zebutin: voi olla vielˆ vˆ symystˆ ilmassa kun elit nˆ in aikaisin aloitettu.. K.. 4.. Q.. T.... A...... J.... 4 maribelxx: Tervehdys kaikille!.. kaao: Moikka taas Lea maribelxx: Jos ihmettelitte lˆ nnen avausta, niin - -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Manni - : Kuokkanen - 4 o -1 0 c 4-1 0 1 140 K Q J 4 J 4 AQ 4 Q K 4 A J K J AK Q A : Laine : Kuokkanen Oen : Porkka : Manni 1 nigel_k: In case they reemt suokko: But team Koistinen is favorite and would have been even if the Tuomi would have qualified to the final rv: negative free bids have a fair bit of suort from folks laying limited system roswolf: good sto rv: laying /1 or standard, I much refer ositive free bids and negative doubles.. K.. J.... roswolf: here here nigel_k: Or transfers, but you need to be able to show your suit.. T.. A.. K.. roswolf: yes transfers are fashionable in these modern days...... A.... Q.. T.. 4.. rv: I would layed a instead of second round of trums.. Q.. A.... 4.. A...... rv: on general rincile better to lay side suit or set u stage for cross-ruff before laying trums.. K.. nigel_k: hether setting u clubs or laying a cross ruff, you need to lay clubs early.. 4.. T...... #1 :: K,J,, # :: T,A,K, # ::,,A, #4 :: Q,T,4, # :: Q,A,,4 # :: A,,, # :: K,, 4, T # ::,,,J # ::,,J, # :: Q,,, K #11 ::,J,, T #1 ::, Q,, 4 #1 ::,,, nigel_k: Cost 0 actually roswolf: now this should be cometitive nigel_k: -11 instead of + roswolf: yes with the gain chucked away rv: Pauli, are the to Finnish layers laying this event? rv: I hear the tomost exerts do lay in the Koistinen team, but not in VG now...1....!..non-forcing suokko: Yes. Most of to layers are laying here. The last year Chamions didn t qualify rv: ossibly the favorites didn t qualify for the finals roswolf: dont like this style roswolf: negative free bids....! nigel_k: I also refer to show my suit immediately with a good hand..... - -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Kuokkanen - 4 : Manni - o -1 0 c 4-1 0 1 140 K Q J 4 J 4 AQ 4 Q K 4 A J K J AK Q A : Halttunen : Aro Closed : irkiˆ : oonen 1 1 1 4 mukavasti lˆ hdˆ ltˆ suojatuksi etelˆ n kˆ teen... K kaao: Jotain ositiivista negatiivisessa 1 tarjouksessakin siis :).. J...... T.. A kaao: Jaa-a, malttaisinkohan assata lˆ nnen kˆ dellˆ?........ 4.. Q.. A maribelxx: aivan, valitettavasti noita sivuvˆ ritikkejˆ ei kuitenkaan ole runsaasti valmiina kaao: Kai sitˆ jotenkin itˆ isi tulla sisˆ ˆ n taistelemaan osiksesta...... Q.... J.... T.... zebutin: vyˆ hykkeet ei kuitenkaan kovin maukkaat ole...... T.. A.. 4.. kaao: i ihan arhaimmat.. #1 :: K,J,, # :: T,A,, # ::,4,Q,A #4 ::,,Q, # :: J,, T, # ::,,,T # :: A, 4,, # ::,, Q, # :: A,,, # ::,J,K, 4 #11 :: K,J,, #1 ::,, 4,T #1 ::, K,, Q zebutin: kˆ rkeen on nˆ kˆ jˆ ˆ n kiilannut Utterin joukkueen Karhulahti - Pekkinen ari.. J...... J.... Q...... K.... J.... T.... Q.... 4........ zebutin: aika lˆ hellˆ tˆ ssˆ jaossa, mutta vaatii korttien kohtuullisia istuntoja...1!.. kaao: o sehˆ n on jo ihan hyvˆ syy kalistella ;)..1 zebutin: tai aika lˆ hellˆ jos kansi menevˆ ˆ ei huomioida..1.. kaao: Pieniˆ uutteita on kaao: :lla -eli voisi myˆ s joskus mennˆ korkealla kaao: Mutta ehkˆ tˆ ssˆ jˆ ˆ dˆ ˆ n kotielitasolle?..4.. zebutin: tˆ llˆ kertaa :kin on jo vaarassa... maribelxx: Peruseinarissa se herttaeli olisi tullut - -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 14 : Manni - : Kuokkanen - 4 o 4 4 40 c 4 4 40 14 40 A J K K K 4 A Q J 4 Q 4 AQ 4 K Q J J A : Laine : Kuokkanen Oen : Porkka : Manni 1 4 11 #1 :: Q,A,, # ::,A,,4 # ::,T,, #4 :: A,T,, # ::,K,,J roswolf: hmm not a good line...... Q.... A.......... J.. K.. 4.. K.. J.......... 4.. T.... K.... Q nigel_k: Declarer didn t really do either and ran out of tricks roswolf: on this layout either major suit looks good rv: yes rv: laying limited system, est can afford to sign-in game, laying /1, he might have bid 4 / (not referable) to show good hand in case artner can contemlate slam..1....4... Q.. A...... Board 14 : Kuokkanen - 4 : Manni - o 4 4 40 c 4 4 40 14 40 A J K K K 4 A Q J 4 Q 4 AQ 4 K Q J J A : Halttunen : Aro Closed : irkiˆ : oonen 1 X 4 11 #1 :: Q,,,K # :: T,,,A # ::,, 4, #4 :: A,T,, # ::,K,,J kaao: Kiva olisi jatkaa joukkisfinaalin seuraamista, mutta on muuta menoa, joten ainakin tˆ ltˆ erˆ ˆ joudun ˆ ˆ ttˆ mˆ ˆ n tˆ hˆ n. Hauskaa ˆ ivˆ n jatkoa kaikille!.. A.... 4.... T...... A.. T........ K.... J maribelxx: Kiitos Kari! maribelxx: aattaa myˆ s edellisen jaon neljˆ ietiˆ kummitella mielessˆ - vaikka ei itˆ isi..1 mue: Jaossa 11 Porkka tarjosi ˆ ˆ lle ja elasi 4 kotiin, 11 imiˆ kuokkaselle zebutin: Kuokkanen ottanut jo aika vakuuttavan johdon maribelxx: Tˆ ˆ llˆ Turussa aurinko aistaa ja sisˆ lˆ mˆ tila tuntuu nousevan koko ajan - saattaa olla vielˆ hikiset oltavat... kaao: Idˆ n elaama 1T tˆ ssˆ ehkˆ?.. maribelxx: ei taida onnistua.. zebutin: varmaan vaihtoehto myˆ s maribelxx: Tosin niin on elaajillakin siellˆ Areenalla, jossa isot ikkunat ovat myˆ s kaakkoon /etelˆ ˆ n :).. - -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) zebutin: onneksi viikonlouksi kaameat helteet taisivat kuitenkin loua koko suomesta, joka vˆ h ˆ n helottaa itkˆ n ˆ ivˆ n elailua kaao: Tai ehkˆ 1T-avaus on./4. kˆ dessˆ 1-1.. kaao: Jˆ nnˆ ˆ ettˆ Kalervo tarjosi 1 jaossa mutta nyt ˆ ˆ tti olla kertomatta suunnilleen yhtˆ huonoa ataansa...4.. maribelxx: Onkohan Lahjattomien inari siirtynyt viiden kortin ylˆ vˆ reihin, kun ei tullut ataavausta.. suokko: lˆ hdˆ n jˆ lkeen tarkalla uolustuksella saisi idettyˆ elin seitsemˆ ssˆ tikissˆ, kun taas eli melkein vˆ kisin saa tikkiˆ... Q...... K.. T...... A.... kaao: Huomenet Paulillekin suokko: huomenta kaao: iin tˆ ssˆ elataan 0 jaon matseja uoliaikalaskennalla.. 4.. kaao: Toinen ˆ ytˆ aloitti jaoista ja, jotta siellˆ olisi vertailutulos kˆ ytˆ ssˆ, kun he siirtyvˆ t jakoon 1.. A.. T.... kaao: Manni - Laine jˆ i ykkˆ sjaossa viiteen ataan, joten eka svingi meni Kuokkaselle.... K Board 1 : Manni - : Kuokkanen 1 4 o 4 40 c 400 1 0 K J K J A 4 Q4 A 4 Q 4 Q J Q A K J AK : Laine : Kuokkanen Oen : Porkka : Manni 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 #1 :: T,K,,4 # ::,,J,4 # ::,,T, #4 ::,,Q, # :: J,Q,A, # ::,,A, # ::,Q,, # :: J,A,,4 # :: J,,, # :: K,,, #11 ::, T, K,4 rv: in a limited system 1M-4M can have fairly decent hand and it is dangerous for os to get in.... J suokko: 1T is 1-1...1! rv: another straightforward contract,, this time for - rv: should make or 11 tricks, time for everyone to grab a cua or take a smoke or toilet break:)...... rv: brb...!...... - -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Kuokkanen 1 4 : Manni - o 4 40 c 400 1 0 K J K J A 4 Q4 A 4 Q 4 Q J Q A K J AK : Halttunen : Aro Closed : irkiˆ : oonen 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 ˆ kˆ isesti myˆ s menisi kotiin... kaao: Oisko :ssa mitˆ ˆ n jˆ nnˆ ˆ ilman atalˆ htˆ ˆ?....... zebutin: aika suoraviivainen kai ilman atalˆ htˆ ˆ, kun Qx edessˆ ruutua niin ei voi sitˆ arvata vˆ ˆ rinkˆ ˆ n.. A.. suokko: ata katoa hertalle, joten menisi myˆ s kotiin ilmn atalˆ htˆ ˆ kaao: o se kyllˆ :).. kaao: Mˆ mietin jotain kiristelyjˆ mutta KI toimii aremmin ;).. T maribelxx: :)........ J.. A........ Q............ 4.. J.. A.. K.. T.. 4.. #1 ::,,,A # ::,,T, # ::,,J,A #4 ::,,,Q # ::,,, # ::,4,J,A # :: K,T, 4, # :: A,,,4 # ::,, K, # :: K,4,, T #11 ::,T,K, #1 :: J,, J, Q #1 :: Q,, Q, kaao: Joo, Kuokkanen sai aika monta tikkiˆ sangieleissˆ yhteensˆ... T.. K.... 4...... J.. 4...... T........ Q.... J.. Q.. A........ A...... Q...... J.. A.... 4.. J........ K.......... T.. K.. 4 kaao: Maltillinen assi irkiˆ ltˆ...1 zebutin: moni villimi noilla jonkun tarjouksen varmaan lˆ ytˆ isi... kaao: Meneekˆ :lla joku tˆ yseli?... suokko: T ja kaatuvat tˆ ssˆ, mutta 4 4- fitissˆ menee kotiin kaao: 4 ehkˆ zebutin: 4 voisi mennˆ suokko: Ilman 1 tarjousta todenˆ kˆ inen lousitoomus olisi ollut T etelˆ stˆ, joka toden - -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Manni - : Kuokkanen o 4 x - 00 c 4 4 1-0 J Q J Q K 4 K Q 4 A K K 4 Q 4 A A J A J : Laine : Kuokkanen Oen : Porkka : Manni 4 X 4 X roswolf: some blood will flow but it is not clear whose - anyway the ost-mortem will be entertaining.. nigel_k: outh has retty good defence with artner leading their suit...... J rv: no oint in allowing os exchange enough information before allowing them to make decision.. Q.. K.. roswolf: looks - without the otion.... rv: orth bid in second seat, generally second seat re-emts even at these colors tends to be fairly sound.. A...... J.. Q.. 4.... A...... T.. K........ J.. 4 rv: makes outh s decision to take a save on n all the more erlexing.... Q nigel_k: o - IMP instead of +............ A.. roswolf: 4 IMO is ill discilined sitting birds must be allowed to sit #1 :: A,,, # :: J,Q,K, # ::,,A, #4 ::,J,Q,4 # ::,A,, # :: T,K,, # ::,J,4, # :: Q,,, # ::,,A, roswolf: hmm the multi roduced an interesting auction in the other room.. A...... 4...... K.... K.. 4.... T.... T.. K.... J.... J.. Q.. Q.... Q.. roswolf: this is where south bid ass or correct in the other room...!.. nigel_k: I think I refer if that is also ass or correct..!.. rv: b nigel_k: illing to go to 4 and makes it hard for them if sades is their suit...4!.. roswolf: i agree with west in the other room to bid 4 - nt is doomed but has south really bid!!!??? crikey!!!!..4...... rv: either outh should ass n or should have bid 4 in earlier round... A vugrahzmq: didn t believe artner has HHxxxx in favourable vulnerability - 11 -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Kuokkanen : Manni - o 4 x - 00 c 4 4 1-0 J Q J Q K 4 K Q 4 A K K 4 Q 4 A A J A J : Halttunen : Aro Closed : irkiˆ : oonen 4 maribelxx: Aito sellainen :) maribelxx: Usein kuitenkin ruutuavaajan toinen v ˆ ri on ata (tai herttakin) - minua kyllˆ houkuttelisi vastaajana tarjoamaan...... maribelxx: iitˆ huolimatta, ettˆ avaus on rajoitettu.... A.. Q.. 4.... A kaao: Pienellˆ ristillˆ lˆ htˆ ˆ kin voisi harkita, kun ei selvˆ ˆ kiinniottoa sivussa ole........ T.... maribelxx: Pohjoisen avaus luasi tˆ llˆ kertaa heikon kakkosen ylˆ vˆ rissˆ ja herttaa halusi kilailla, kumi tahansa ylˆ vˆ ri artnerilla sitten olikaan.. kaao: Tosin irkiˆ ˆ ˆ tti ollakin kasvattamatta ristiˆ ˆ n.... #1 ::,,, # :: A,Q,4, # :: A,,, #4 :: T,,, # ::,, K, # :: Q,4,, K # :: A,,,4 # :: T,J,Q, # :: A,,, # ::,K,, kaao: Koistinen on varmaankin selvˆ (ennakkomaljoista huolimatta) ennakkosuosikki taas zebutin: kolmannessa jaossa manni aloitti ilmeisesti kirinsˆ...matkaa kuitenkin on vielˆ jonkun verran... kaao: Viime vuonnahan Tuomi ˆ ˆ si yllˆ ttˆ mˆ ˆ n, mutta tˆ nˆ vuonna he jˆ ivˆ t finaalin ulkouolelle maribelxx: iinˆ istuivat kortit mukavasti ja herttakymin jˆ lkeen odottelin joa ylitikkiˆ kaao: Joo, imi er jako ei ehkˆ ihan riitˆ.. maribelxx: Mutta kuten tiedetˆ ˆ n, niin kotieli on ensisijainen tavoite :)..! kaao: Balanssisangi, luokkaa 11-14 ehkˆ....!..4 kaao: Luultavasti juuri 11-14, koska Porkka assasi... maribelxx: Aro - irkiˆ siis elaavat vahvaa ristiˆ, jolloin ruutuavaus luaa + korttia maribelxx: illoin kun ruutu on lyhyt ( tai korttia), niin kˆ dessˆ on ristivˆ ri.. - 1 -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Manni - : Kuokkanen o 140 c -1 0 1 140 4 K Q A J 4 K A J Q Q K 4 A 4 K A J Q J : Laine : Kuokkanen Oen : Porkka : Manni 4 in... A........ 4.... A........ K...... T.. J.. Q #1 :: A,,, # :: 4,,A, # ::,,K, #4 ::,T,J,Q # :: A,,4, # ::,Q,,K # ::,,, rv: the reason for second seat re-emts to be fairly sound is that one of the oonents has already assed and it is more likely for artner to hold a good hand and there is no oint... K.... Q.. 4.... K.. A...... 4.. T.. J.. Q.... A.......... K.... rv: in re-emting artner nigel_k: The moral of the story is that you should bid to the limit immediately, not go slowly and give oonents room roswolf: well now some eole may disagree - the Hideous Hog for one!! nigel_k: If your oonents lay like the Hideous Hog s oonents it may be different...! roswolf: :) rv: rofl roswolf: the multi strikes again........... rv: will find it difficult to make any level contract and it is tough for either of them to get - 1 -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Kuokkanen : Manni - o 140 c -1 0 1 140 4 K Q A J 4 K A J Q Q K 4 A 4 K A J Q J : Halttunen : Aro Closed : irkiˆ : oonen X 4 voisi olla arvot sivuvˆ reissˆ, johon voi sitten heitellˆ meneˆ t ois........... maribelxx: Multi-avaus tˆ llˆ kertaa idˆ ltˆ, ja no niin, olin kirjoittamassa, ettˆ mahtaako lˆ ytyˆ kilailua ohjoiselta - lˆ ytyi! suokko: 1 avaus turkulaisittain luaa vain 4 korttia.. 4.... A.. maribelxx: e olikin tareen, jotta saisi omalle uolelle merkinnˆ n :) zebutin: vˆ ˆ rˆ hertta arvaus oli kohtalokasta tˆ llˆ kertaa... :).... Q.. K.. kaao: Totta tuokin. Luonnollisella tarjoamisella hankala selvitellˆ kaikkea. Mutta nyt toimi hyvin.. K.. A...... 4.... A #1 :: 4,,A, # ::,Q,K, # :: K,A,, #4 :: 4,,A, # ::,Q,,K # :: J,,,T kaao: Taas vaihteeksi jˆ nnemi jako.. A.... 4...... Q.... K.. zebutin: seiskaa ei voi huonoksi haukkua, mutta l ˆ ytyykˆ tarvittavat tiedot? kaao: yt itˆ isi se renonssi saada selville, jotta isoslammi lˆ ytyisi suokko: Pelinvienissˆ ei tule kauheasti ongelmia tarjous sarjan jˆ lkeen :) kaao: 1-4?...! kaao: Tai 1 - T; -, jos on xclusion RKCB suokko: 1 -T kyssyy valtti kuvia? zebutin: mutta onko vastaukset hyvin sovittu? :)...! kaao: oonen avasi jaossa jonka Halttunen vielˆ nosti 4 :aan. iinˆ Mannin joukkue ˆ ˆ tyi :aan asti, yksi ieti... suokko: Jaossa voisi myˆ s haluta elata slˆ mmiˆ, jos hertan laatu on liaan huono, kun lˆ nellˆ - 14 -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Manni - : Kuokkanen - o 4 4 0 c 4 4 0 1-00 K Q A J 4 A J A AK Q 4 Q J 4 4 4 K K Q J : Laine : Kuokkanen Oen : Porkka : Manni 4 4 #1 :: K,4,,A # ::,,Q, # ::,,T, #4 :: 4,, K, # :: Q,T,, # :: J, 4,, # ::,K,A, rv: if orth s K was elsewhere, I would have surely doubled in balancing seat when is assed around...... Q.... K.. J...... T roswolf: south should have done something over the multi - double showing either a weak nt or a very strong hand being my choice roswolf: e are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our very efficient oerator, Juho Granstrom. Great Job! Our areciation to the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is... roswolf: brought to BBO vugrah. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Venky and igel for their wit and ercetive comments and to our secs whose contributions kee us on our... roswolf: toes. rv: oosite a assed artner, I wouldn t get in with outh hand esecially with QX nigel_k: If anyone would act it would have to be orth rv: yes if K was elsewhere it was clear-cut to get in, with actual holding I agree with bidding all around roswolf: fair comment but exerience in the uk has taught me to bid in these ositions nigel_k: I would robably balance with orth instead of the final ass but it is close..!..hhxxxx (T would be worse!c) rv: thanks igel and Geoffrey, it was a leasure to do commentary with both of you, also thanks to excellent Vu grah oerator Pauli and finally all secs....4..4... roswolf: north should double erhas - an uncommon situation i think roswolf: scheduled re-start in 0 mins or so.. K suokko: Juho is oerator rv: thanks Juho.. 4.... A...... Q.... suokko: The results for the round will be osted to the website htt://www.bridgefinland.com/sm/ joukkue0/index.h?lang= after all have layed the round.... T.... 4.... K.... Q.. T.... nigel_k: This is going to be down one suokko: There is already results after the first half of the first round nigel_k: Thanks everyone rv: thanks all, see all of you in 1 mins or so.. J.. 4........ K.. A.. roswolf: bye for now - 1 -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Kuokkanen - : Manni - o 4 4 0 c 4 4 0 1-00 K Q A J 4 A J A AK Q 4 Q J 4 4 4 K K Q J : Halttunen : Aro Closed : irkiˆ : oonen 1 1 X 4 suokko: Kumallakaan uolustajalla ei ole heloa kˆ ˆ ntˆ ˆ. Voi olla, ettˆ 4 lisuu kotiin aika monessakin ˆ ydˆ ssˆ..... kaao: Aika lˆ hellˆ hˆ n tuo :n 4 :kin olisi.. maribelxx: Tosin ristin avaus voisi olla mahdollinen maribelxx: Aro - irkiˆ llˆ on aggressiivinen tyyli ja ehkˆ ˆ itˆ iti kˆ ttˆ ˆ n liian hyvˆ nˆ estoavaukseen..4......... Q.. 4.... J.. maribelxx: Mutta kyllˆ kait ensimmˆ isessˆ kˆ dessˆ tuon verran saa olla maribelxx: Ratkaisu tietenkin taahtuu sen erusteella, mitˆ artnerin kanssa on keskusteltu.. 4.... A...... Q.. A........ K.... 4.... A.... J #1 ::,,,Q # :: 4,,J, # :: 4,, A, #4 ::,Q,A, # ::,, K, # :: 4,,A, # :: J,,, zebutin: ienellˆ lisumisella 4 saattaisi mennˆ ehkˆ... maribelxx: siinˆ olikin yllˆ tyssauma kotieliin... mitˆ elinviejˆ ei varmaan odottanut saavansa maribelxx: siis kotieliˆ noin alun alkaen kaao: irkiˆ ˆ ˆ tti, ettˆ kannattaa yrittˆ ˆ :)...1!.. maribelxx: oilla alavˆ reillˆ tekisi varmasti mieli avata jos systeemi vain sallii..1! kaao: 4 yytˆ ˆ aria tekemˆ ˆ n siirron ylˆ vˆ riinsˆ.. kaao: li Kustavi, kuten sitˆ kai uomessa kutsutaan.. maribelxx: siis tarjoamaan vˆ rin alta :).. maribelxx: Heidˆ n systeemissˆ ˆ n T avaus on heikko luvaten molemmat ylˆ vˆ rit maribelxx: Joten ilmeisesti soivaa tarjousta ei ollut - 1 -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Manni 4 : Kuokkanen - o 10 c x - 00 1 0 K Q J 4 Q A AQ 4 Q J J4 AK AK J 4 K : Laine : Kuokkanen Oen : Porkka : Manni 1 1 4 11 suokko: Good morning. Here is C and sunny today :) rv: rarely ays to give a free ride for any strong auction before they can get suits in nigel_k: I would definitely want to act in third seat at the vulnerability roswolf: i would have oened something as north roswolf: = weakest bid i suose...... nigel_k: Clubs is better but it would be hard to sto in a club artscore roswolf: e/w missed a -4 fit - somehing wrong here - i would have bid instead of nt rv: artial best for, this contract should score as well because of friendly lie of cards.. A.... J.. rv: can afford to lose tricks as well after a lead.... K.. Q.... A........ K...... roswolf: yes - trum breaks rarely are bad for declarer #1 :: A,,J, # ::,K,Q, # :: A,,, #4 :: K,,, # :: 4,T,, Q # :: J,,4,K # ::,, K,4 # ::,T,Q, 4 # ::,,, # ::, T,, roswolf: hi all nigel_k: Hi everyone roswolf: do we know the systems?... rv: Hi Geoffrey, igel and all secs, warm welcome from sunny Bangalore roswolf: strong club for e/w...1!..1+ vugrahzmq: and...1!..neg roswolf: the rebid will be most revealing rv: Hi Juho, how is the weather in Helsinki around this time of the year? vugrahzmq: have multi, M +M4+ 1-1, T majors weak roswolf: ty for info... rv: I might have re-emted with orth hand... roswolf: agreed... - 1 -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 1 : Kuokkanen - : Manni 4 o 10 c x - 00 1 0 K Q J 4 Q A AQ 4 Q J J4 AK AK J 4 K : Halttunen : Aro Closed : irkiˆ : oonen X 4 11 maribelxx: ruutunelonen toivoi ristiˆ takaisin.. A.... 4.... K.. maribelxx: mikˆ tuota ˆ ytˆ ˆ vastaan lienee luonnollinenkin kˆ ˆ ntˆ :).... K.. T.... 4 #1 :: K,,, # :: A,,, # :: 4,T,, Q #4 ::,A,,4 # ::,K,, # :: K,T,, 4 # ::,A,J, # ::,J,Q, # :: J,,4,K kaao: Onkohan 1T 1-1.. 4.. T.... Q.. J.... 4.. K...... K.. 4.... T.. Q.. 4............ T..........! maribelxx: Tˆ ssˆ tuli heti esimerkki siitˆ aggressiivisesta uolesta - ihan systeeminmukainen avaus toki.. kaao: Taitavat ˆ ˆ tyˆ :aan..! maribelxx: 4-, ata ja alavˆ ri, vˆ h -4 maribelxx: ristiˆ vastaus kyselyyn luasi minimivoiman ja ristivˆ rin...... kaao: Jako tasabrikka.. zebutin: vastinˆ ydˆ ssˆ sarja oli suoraviivainen 1 -nt- kaao: Kiva ettˆ raamamatsissa molemmat joukkueet selvittivˆ t sen haasteen :) suokko: Klla ylos hyaten saisi viela hertta kuilla toisen ietin... K........ A........ 4.. T.... Q.. - 1 -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 0 : Manni : Kuokkanen - o 1 4 c 4-1 0 0 0 J A AK 4 A AK Q Q J4 Q 4 K 4 Q J K J : Laine : Kuokkanen Oen : Porkka : Manni 1 1 X 1 4 game chances are belak.... roswolf: that I a view rv: bleak nigel_k: You could still have T oosite a maximum 1 and a rebid is also better tactically..1.. roswolf: well as north i would ass now rv: he has cards suit and bidding might make it more difficult for os to get into auction and comete roswolf: not so feisty it seems... roswolf: when i layed strong club i had a rule that oener must always rebid.. K........ A...... K nigel_k: That est hand is also quite a lot better than a tyical 1 HCP hand.... 4...... Q.. 4.......... Q.... 4 roswolf: agreed.. A...... nigel_k: Trum cou as ast had to follow suit all the way.. T.... J...... Q.... A.... 4.... K...... J.. T........ J.... T.. T.. K.. A.. Q.. J suokko: The web site is at htt://bridgefinland.fi/ sm/bak/joukkue0/index.h?lang= The Butler scores from the first half are also there, under Results #1 :: K,,, # :: A,,,K # ::,4,, #4 :: Q,4,, # ::,,Q, # :: 4,A,, # ::, T,,J # ::,,Q, # :: A,,4, # :: K,,,J #11 :: T,,, #1 :: J,,T, T #1 :: K, A, Q, J rv: does the winning team reresent Finland in uroean Teams chamionshis?.... A.. J...... J.. Q.... J.... 4.. K roswolf: this is a otentially feisty hand suokko: o. ational team has been selected already in the January rv: thanks, this is Finnish ational chamionshis?..1!..1+...1!..neg suokko: yes... roswolf: this is a round robin team final - bds er match? vugrahzmq: 0 boards a match roswolf: ty suokko: 0 boards er match. Divided into half times nigel_k: Did est really ass 1? rv: I might have rebid with est hand though - 1 -
Finnish Teams Final(Match 1 egment ) Board 0 : Kuokkanen - : Manni o 1 4 c 4-1 0 0 0 J A AK 4 A AK Q Q J4 Q 4 K 4 Q J K J : Halttunen : Aro Closed : irkiˆ : oonen 1 X X 4 4 4 kaao: Tiukka tˆ yseli lˆ ydetty toisessa huoneessa.... 4.... maribelxx: Alalaidan movie-naulan avulla voitte myˆ s katsoa miten tikit siellˆ elattiin.. K.. A kaao: Kiitos kommentaatoreille, oeraattorille ja katsojille! Kohta jatkuu.. J...... Q.. Q.. A.......... 4.. A.. suokko: Hyvˆ tˆ yseli, kun on helot tikiˆ, ˆ ssˆ n olessa oikein kaao: Ja hertastakaan ei uolustus saa liikaa tikkejˆ maribelxx: Herttaeli on siellˆ sujunut hyvin... tˆ ˆ llˆ oltiin vaarassa jˆ ˆ dˆ elaamaan T.. Q maribelxx: Kiitos kaikille! Tavataan taas klo 1.00.... J...... Q.... 4........ K #1 :: K,,, # ::,A,,4 # ::,,K,A #4 :: J,,,Q # :: Q,A,, # ::,,4,A # ::, Q,,J # ::,,Q, # :: 4,,, # :: K,,, maribelxx: Ottelu lˆ hestyy louaan, seuraava kierros alkaa klo 1.00 maribelxx: Kisan nettisivu htt://www.bridgefinland.fi /sm/joukkue0/index.h..1! kaao: kan uoliajan viimeinen jako menossa.... kaao: Aikataulun mukaan eli jatkuu 11:0... suokko: jaossa Halttunen ei lˆ ytˆ nyt unaista l ˆ htˆ ˆ, joten 11 IMP Manille... kaao: Manni siis elasi X kotiin.....4.. maribelxx: ivun vasemmassa ylˆ kulmassa nˆ ette toisen ˆ ydˆ n tuloksen. Tarjoussarja nˆ kyy, kun viette hiiren tuloksen ˆ ˆ lle...4... K........ zebutin: myˆ s tˆ ssˆ jaossa imit vaihtavat omistajaa... A - 0 -